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Lemon Drop wrote:
It's no secret that the US supported the EU's efforts to make trade deals with, and give financial aid to, Ukraine. Efforts that were rejected last fall by Yanukovych and which led to the protests we just witnessed.
You really have to stop buying the cheap propaganda, you are too smart for that.
The Ukrainian neonazi run the protests, directed by our stooges.
Just take another look at that video
freeradical wrote:
Frack the EU...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM&feature=youtu.be
Lemon Drop wrote:
That's all very public. What's with the "secret" stuff?
The "secret" part is all in your imagination.
max wrote: Ukraine is just a first step and we are quite open about doing it.
Lemon Drop wrote:
Also, we had a good discussion on the forum about this a couple of months ago:
http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2...sg-1651070
Did you discuss the part of the military realigment with NATO?.
Did you discuss the deep religious differences at work there and the role of the Catholic church underlaying them ?
Did you discuss Polish claims and designs on the west part of the country?
Did you discuss Khrushchev's actions that laid some deep roots for today?
Did you discuss the Nazi history of Ukraine and it's role on politics of today?...
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Here is another guy who gets it:...
for the moment Washington is focused on destabilizing Ukraine.
Ukraine has a democratically elected government, but Washington doesn’t like it because Washington didn’t pick it. The Ukraine or the western part of it is full of Washington funded NGOs whose purpose is to deliver Ukraine into the clutches of the EU where US and European banks can loot the country, as they looted, for example, Latvia, and simultaneously weaken Russia by stealing a large part of traditional Russia and converting it into US/NATO military bases against Russia.
Perhaps Putin, an athlete, is distracted by the Olympic Games in Russia. Otherwise, it is something of a puzzle why Russia hasn’t put its nuclear missiles on high alert and occupied the western Ukraine with troops in order to prevent Ukraine’s overthrow by Washington’s money. Every country has citizens that will sell the country out for money, and western Ukraine is overflowing with such traitors.
As we have seen for decades, Arabs and Muslims will sell out their people for Western money. So will western Ukrainians. The NGOs financed by Washington are committed to delivering Ukraine into Washington’s hands where Ukrainians can become American serfs and this integral part of Russia can become a staging ground for the US military.
Of all the violent protests that we have been witnessed to, the Ukrainian one is the most orchestrated.
On February 6, Zero Hedge, one of the intelligent and informed Internet sites, posted a leaked recording from the despicable Victoria Nuland, an Assistant Secretary of State in the Obama Regime. Nuland is caught discussing with the US envoy to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, Washington’s choice for who heads the next Ukrainian government.
Nuland is incensed that the European Union has not joined Washington in imposing sanctions on the Ukrainian government in order to complete Washington’s takeover of Ukraine. Nuland speaks as if she is God with the God-given right to select the government of Ukraine, which she proceeds to do.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-...ne/5367744
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That's all very public. What's with the "secret" stuff?
max:
The "secret" part is all in your imagination.
max:
We, as per the recording released by the Russian intelligence, our State Department made the decisions who was going to run the "new " Ukraine instead of the elected officials.
What recording? That's what I meant by "secret stuff."
As for your source - Paul Craig Roberts. father of Reaganomics. Well, I agree with him on some obvious things, like the erosion of post 9/11 civil rights.
He's a 9/11 Truther though, and that gets a little wiggy. Hard to take that person seriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IgGzWG4OPA
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I"ll agree that it's a bit of a dog's breakfast, but political unrest is like that. There are various forces at work, some overt, some covert. And if you think the FRS isn't taking strong action to maintain Russian interests, you're naive at best.
Unlike some of our colleagues, I don't see Nazis under every mattress. Are there national socialists at work ? Sure, why not. Ditto folks that miss the USSR, etc..
Will Ukraine dissolve into two parts ? Possible, but when you consider the Parliament did not separate along those lines, there is hope. And yeah... some of the folk are thugs. On all sides. What else is new ?
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I look forward to the USA enslaving the people of the Ukraine and hope to get my own personal Ukrainian slave.
max wrote:
Here is another guy who gets it:...
for the moment Washington is focused on destabilizing Ukraine.
Ukraine has a democratically elected government, but Washington doesn’t like it because Washington didn’t pick it. The Ukraine or the western part of it is full of Washington funded NGOs whose purpose is to deliver Ukraine into the clutches of the EU where US and European banks can loot the country, as they looted, for example, Latvia, and simultaneously weaken Russia by stealing a large part of traditional Russia and converting it into US/NATO military bases against Russia.
Perhaps Putin, an athlete, is distracted by the Olympic Games in Russia. Otherwise, it is something of a puzzle why Russia hasn’t put its nuclear missiles on high alert and occupied the western Ukraine with troops in order to prevent Ukraine’s overthrow by Washington’s money. Every country has citizens that will sell the country out for money, and western Ukraine is overflowing with such traitors.
As we have seen for decades, Arabs and Muslims will sell out their people for Western money. So will western Ukrainians. The NGOs financed by Washington are committed to delivering Ukraine into Washington’s hands where Ukrainians can become American serfs and this integral part of Russia can become a staging ground for the US military.
Of all the violent protests that we have been witnessed to, the Ukrainian one is the most orchestrated.
On February 6, Zero Hedge, one of the intelligent and informed Internet sites, posted a leaked recording from the despicable Victoria Nuland, an Assistant Secretary of State in the Obama Regime. Nuland is caught discussing with the US envoy to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, Washington’s choice for who heads the next Ukrainian government.
Nuland is incensed that the European Union has not joined Washington in imposing sanctions on the Ukrainian government in order to complete Washington’s takeover of Ukraine. Nuland speaks as if she is God with the God-given right to select the government of Ukraine, which she proceeds to do.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-...ne/5367744
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Speedy, you just want one of those Ukranian mail order brides...
Here are a couple I have carefully selected for you
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The one on the right looks tasty, at least after some corn finishing.
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Speedy wrote:
I look forward to the USA enslaving the people of the Ukraine and hope to get my own personal Ukrainian slave.
[quote=max]
Here is another guy who gets it:...
for the moment Washington is focused on destabilizing Ukraine.
Ukraine has a democratically elected government, but Washington doesn’t like it because Washington didn’t pick it. The Ukraine or the western part of it is full of Washington funded NGOs whose purpose is to deliver Ukraine into the clutches of the EU where US and European banks can loot the country, as they looted, for example, Latvia, and simultaneously weaken Russia by stealing a large part of traditional Russia and converting it into US/NATO military bases against Russia.
Perhaps Putin, an athlete, is distracted by the Olympic Games in Russia. Otherwise, it is something of a puzzle why Russia hasn’t put its nuclear missiles on high alert and occupied the western Ukraine with troops in order to prevent Ukraine’s overthrow by Washington’s money. Every country has citizens that will sell the country out for money, and western Ukraine is overflowing with such traitors.
As we have seen for decades, Arabs and Muslims will sell out their people for Western money. So will western Ukrainians. The NGOs financed by Washington are committed to delivering Ukraine into Washington’s hands where Ukrainians can become American serfs and this integral part of Russia can become a staging ground for the US military.
Of all the violent protests that we have been witnessed to, the Ukrainian one is the most orchestrated.
On February 6, Zero Hedge, one of the intelligent and informed Internet sites, posted a leaked recording from the despicable Victoria Nuland, an Assistant Secretary of State in the Obama Regime. Nuland is caught discussing with the US envoy to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, Washington’s choice for who heads the next Ukrainian government.
Nuland is incensed that the European Union has not joined Washington in imposing sanctions on the Ukrainian government in order to complete Washington’s takeover of Ukraine. Nuland speaks as if she is God with the God-given right to select the government of Ukraine, which she proceeds to do.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-...ne/5367744
Sometimes I have to wonder if claptrap like this isn't intentionally satirical.
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$tevie wrote:
Sometimes I have to wonder if claptrap like this isn't intentionally satirical.
no, it's vintage Paul Craig Roberts, of whom max is apparently a fan.
He not only thinks 9/11 was a government conspiracy, he also believes that the assassination of Osama bin Laden and the Sandy Hook murders were also conspiracies. To control us.
Because, you know...
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max wrote:
Yes, cbelt, we did, with our financial, political and organizational support.
We also impeached a President, LEGALLY, that does not stand for a regime change.
Soros maybe
Obama just isn't bright enough.
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