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Obama lies again
#11
Steve G. wrote:
[quote=billb]
The same sort of critical thinking that brought us Polish Death Camps, in Warsaw of all places...
Stooping pretty low today, aren't you, bill? (even for you?)
Let's point out who the baby killers are while we are at it.
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#12
cbelt3 wrote:
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Dunno. There are ways to turn an AR-15 into an M-16. The kits to do that are sold under the table at gun shows. Illegal as hell, but people do it. There are also kits that are legal called 'bump stocks' that allow you to use the recoil of the gun to squeeze the trigger, turning the weapon into a defacto fully autmatic weapon.

President Obama might actually have more information than us at this point.

There are ways to convert an AR-15 to something that is similar to an M4. However, to do so requires a bit more than a simple, under-the-table kit. Knowledge, expertise, the proper parts and a machine shop are required to do a proper conversion (that is truly illegal and will land you in jail). Otherwise, you're building yourself a weapon that may literally explode in your face.

And there are things like "bump stocks" and Hellfire triggers that utilize the recoil of the weapon to simulate full-auto fire. However, if you should watch youtube videos of this, you'll notice that the method of making this happen practically eliminates all tactical accuracy of the weapon- giving the shooter a more "spray and pray" approach.


Black wrote:
OK, so assuming it's a lie, or an inaccuracy-- couldn't you baby killers use it to your advantage? I.e. "Lanza used a fully auomatic weapon-- so we don't need any bans on semi-automatic weapons?"

Quite simply, had Lanza actually used a fully automatic M4 then the media would have gone absolutely ballistic about it - more so that the North Hollywood Shootout in 1997. I mean really, that would be a great opportunity to push a heavy gun ban.

Considering the evidence, this is a demonstration of an outright, bold-faced lie from our president.

"An inaccuracy" is a way out that's palatable for the Obama apologists.





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#13
Pussies with guns
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#14
No, no.. Pussies run Nitro.
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#15
Mac-A-Matic wrote:

"An inaccuracy" is a way out that's palatable for the Obama apologists.

It certainly does look like Obama said something that is not true. He might have intended to say something else, but if he knew it wasn't true and said it anyway, then it was a lie. If what he said isn't true and it isn't a case of what he said not being what he meant to say, then as an Obama apologist I will say that I doubt he knew what he said was not true (IOW, I doubt he lied even if what he said turns out not to be true).
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#16
Mac-A-Matic wrote:
Considering the evidence, this is a demonstration of an outright, bold-faced lie from our president.

"An inaccuracy" is a way out that's palatable for the Obama apologists.

What exactly would the intent of such a lie be? Can you help us apologists make some kind of sense out of your outrage?
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#17
Black wrote:
What exactly would the intent of such a lie be? Can you help us apologists make some kind of sense out of your outrage?

Choosing to be obtuse. That's your M.O.

Why wouldn't Obama lie to promote an agenda of greater gun control? He's already done it right here.
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#18
Yes, yes, let's all let ourselves get sidetracked by the HUGE practical differences between automatic and semi-automatic weapons to a guy like Lanza. Because having to release a trigger before pulling it again is really already putting a damper on people's ability to self-defend themselves against schoolkids.

But hey, don't let me stop anyone from arguing the stupid minutia of the Prez's error that couldn't impact legislation anyway.

Get all lathered up and righteous! The President wants to ban automatic weapons now!! Oh, wait ....
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#19
Ted King wrote:
It certainly does look like Obama said something that is not true. He might have intended to say something else, but if he knew it wasn't true and said it anyway, then it was a lie. If what he said isn't true and it isn't a case of what he said not being what he meant to say, then as an Obama apologist I will say that I doubt he knew what he said was not true (IOW, I doubt he lied even if what he said turns out not to be true).

Come on, Ted.

We're not talking about some "gosh jolly gee" hick like George W. Bush. This is Barack Hussein Obama, born in Honolulu, Hawaii - graduated from Punahou School, Columbia University and Harvard Law. This is a man who has been a civil rights attorney, a community organizer and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago - all before he became a US Senator at the age of 43.

We're talking about a smart, savvy, intelligent and cunning man - a man who's been lauded as The Great Orator and praised for his intellect. And to have us believe that maybe he didn't say what he meant to say or that he didn't know he was telling an "untruth"????

Come on, that's just the apologist talking.
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#20
Steve G. wrote:
Stooping pretty low today, aren't you, bill? (even for you?)

Look in the mirror, Steve. You do it every day....
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