Yep - that Fox News bombshell was *total* BS

[AllGold]

Just saw a Trump / anti-Hillary commercial on TV with this B.S. It was paid for by the Republican National Committee with Trump's "I approved this message". Among other things, it said the FBI has opened a new investigation into the Clinton Foundation, citing the News and Observer.

Sigh.

[Wags]

I can hardly wait for Michelle to run for office. That should really tilt them over.

[mrbigstuff]

Speedy wrote:
Who cares if it is BS, 40,000,000 Trump supporters believe it is true. And more than a few of them think she should get the electric chair.

Obama has destroyed the nation and is a racist, he's also a Muslim, a communist, a socialist and a terrorist.

Did I miss anything?

[$tevie]

mrbigstuff wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
Who cares if it is BS, 40,000,000 Trump supporters believe it is true. And more than a few of them think she should get the electric chair.

Obama has destroyed the nation and is a racist, he's also a Muslim, a communist, a socialist and a terrorist.

Did I miss anything?
You missed that he's a Kenyan!

[mrbigstuff]

Oh, right, he's also a fascist, never mind the contradiction of terms with the other aspersions.

[Filliam H. Muffman]

Wags wrote:
I can hardly wait for Michelle to run for office. That should really tilt them over.

Hillary is waiting for the girls to enter college before Michelle gets appointed to SCOTUS.

[max]

AllGold wrote:
What bothers me is there are more than a few who are not necessarily Trump supporters who are buying into the never ending Hillary scandal B.S. that the GOP has been manufacturing for years. The problem is those people don't like Trump but think they can't vote for Clinton because of all the crap that has been (and still is being) spewed.

Like the disastrous regime change in Libya?
Or the militarization of Syrian opposition, adding Saudi Qatari jihadis into the mix, leading to 500,000 dead in this conflict today?
That kind of crap, AllGold?......

[AllGold]

max wrote:
[quote=AllGold]
What bothers me is there are more than a few who are not necessarily Trump supporters who are buying into the never ending Hillary scandal B.S. that the GOP has been manufacturing for years. The problem is those people don't like Trump but think they can't vote for Clinton because of all the crap that has been (and still is being) spewed.

Like the disastrous regime change in Libya?
Or the militarization of Syrian opposition, adding Saudi Qatari jihadis into the mix, leading to 500,000 dead in this conflict today?
That kind of crap, AllGold?......
No, that's not what I meant.

But if you want to go there, the Secretary of State does not determine foreign policy. That is primarily the executive and legislative branches.

Blaming Hillary Clinton for perceived U.S. foreign policy mistakes actually IS that kind of crap.

[$tevie]

max is the kind of person who blamed Obama for everything right up until Clinton ran for President...now it's all Hillary's fault...Obama is off the hook. lol

[max]

AllGold wrote:
[quote=max]
[quote=AllGold]
What bothers me is there are more than a few who are not necessarily Trump supporters who are buying into the never ending Hillary scandal B.S. that the GOP has been manufacturing for years. The problem is those people don't like Trump but think they can't vote for Clinton because of all the crap that has been (and still is being) spewed.

Like the disastrous regime change in Libya?
Or the militarization of Syrian opposition, adding Saudi Qatari jihadis into the mix, leading to 500,000 dead in this conflict today?
That kind of crap, AllGold?......
No, that's not what I meant.

But if you want to go there, the Secretary of State does not determine foreign policy. That is primarily the executive and legislative branches.

Blaming Hillary Clinton for perceived U.S. foreign policy mistakes actually IS that kind of crap. Oh, that is so cute, US Secretary of State does not drive foreign policy, she is anything but the executive branch, as a good secretary she must be the one fetching coffee for the menfolk while they discuss big policies.....

Talk about your crap, AllGold:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27/hill...raq-syria/

In 2012, she reportedly proposed to the White House — along with CIA Director David Petraeus — a covert program (apparently larger than the one later authorized) to provide arms to vetted Syrian rebel groups fighting Bashar al-Assad’s government. Obama opposed this proposal on the grounds that there could be no guarantees of where the weapons would ultimately end up and that CIA analysts determined they would not have “materially” hastened the removal of Assad from power..

We spend about a billion dollars on this exercise with most of Clinton supplied weapons ending up in the hands of jihadis, al Nusra and later, ISIS....

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/27/democrat...ublicanse/

When the civil war in Syria broke out in 2011, Clinton acted on these views. She pressured the Obama administration to take a more militaristic approach, to arm and train even more rebels than it did, the Times reports.
This is consistent with an August 2014 interview in the Atlantic, in which Clinton blithely wrote off diplomacy in the war in Syria, instead calling for backing the “hard men with the guns.”

Of course, Clinton had nothing to do with Libyan disaster according to the pathetic revisionist crap pushed here by AllGold:...
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/even_cri...libya_was/

Even critics understate how catastrophically bad the Hillary Clinton-led NATO bombing of Libya was... ....the president does have enormous power when it comes to international affairs, diplomacy and war. This makes foreign policy one of the most crucial issues in any presidential campaign.

Clinton’s leadership in the catastrophic war in Libya should ergo constantly be at the forefront of any discussion of the presidential primary.

Throughout the campaign, Clinton has tried to have her cake and eat it too. She has flaunted her leadership in the war as a sign of her supposed foreign policy experience, yet, at the same moment, strived to distance herself from the disastrous results of said war.

Today, Libya is in ruins. The seven months of NATO bombing effectively destroyed the government and left behind a political vacuum. Much of this has been filled by extremist groups.

Millions of Libyans live without a formal government. The internationally recognized government only controls the eastern part of the country. Rivaled extremist Islamist groups have seized much of the country.