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2 policeman cant take down one man?
#31
I just saw the camera footage. He was asleep in a parked car. There are no keys in the ignition, he’s NOT ‘blocking’ the drive thru.

The police pulled him out of the car and interrogated him.

Simplest thing in the world to have him just get a ride home since he admitted to being drunk.

Sorry, everything else said here is due to this ridiculous abuse by the police.
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#32
sekker wrote:
I just saw the camera footage. He was asleep in a parked car. There are no keys in the ignition, he’s NOT ‘blocking’ the drive thru.

The police pulled him out of the car and interrogated him.

Simplest thing in the world to have him just get a ride home since he admitted to being drunk.

Sorry, everything else said here is due to this ridiculous abuse by the police.

Police body cam footage clearly showing Brooks asleep in a car blocking the Wendy's drive-through- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRuWcgflaE

Also, as can be seen at :26 in the video, the tachometer in the car is displaying +/- 800 Rpms, not 0, indicating that the engine was running while Brooks was asleep.
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#33
I am soooo glad that I live in a city where the cops are required to undergo periodic de-escalation training. This is serious training, with live situational drills, and an on-staff experts. We also have had a citizen-run police review commission since 1973. The cops here may not all be angels, but they have a completely different culture to much of the stuff I'm seeing on the news. They managed to get through the post-Charlottesville period when a bunch of neo-nazis invaded our town with intent to riot without any violent police-on-protester clashes. This is what it should look like all over the US.
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#34
1. Atlanta police shooting of Rayshard Brooks breakdown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeYkjXaFy4

2. DEFUND THE POLICE #8CANTWAIT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymznwY2kbEU&t=315s
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#35
Thrift Store Scott wrote:
[quote=sekker]
I just saw the camera footage. He was asleep in a parked car. There are no keys in the ignition, he’s NOT ‘blocking’ the drive thru.

The police pulled him out of the car and interrogated him.

Simplest thing in the world to have him just get a ride home since he admitted to being drunk.

Sorry, everything else said here is due to this ridiculous abuse by the police.

Police body cam footage clearly showing Brooks asleep in a car blocking the Wendy's drive-through- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRuWcgflaE

Also, as can be seen at :26 in the video, the tachometer in the car is displaying +/- 800 Rpms, not 0, indicating that the engine was running while Brooks was asleep.
...and he didn’t need to start the car to move it OUT of the drive-through; note his wheels start rolling immediately.
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#36
Cody Garrett. Lovely.

Can we aim for credible?
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#37
deckeda wrote:
Cody Garrett. Lovely.

Can we aim for credible?

In matters relating to law enforcement from a police officer's perspective, in what way or ways do you find Mr. Garrett to be other than credible?
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#38
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=Thrift Store Scott]
[quote=sekker]
I just saw the camera footage. He was asleep in a parked car. There are no keys in the ignition, he’s NOT ‘blocking’ the drive thru.

The police pulled him out of the car and interrogated him.

Simplest thing in the world to have him just get a ride home since he admitted to being drunk.

Sorry, everything else said here is due to this ridiculous abuse by the police.

Police body cam footage clearly showing Brooks asleep in a car blocking the Wendy's drive-through- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRuWcgflaE

Also, as can be seen at :26 in the video, the tachometer in the car is displaying +/- 800 Rpms, not 0, indicating that the engine was running while Brooks was asleep.
...and he didn’t need to start the car to move it OUT of the drive-through; note his wheels start rolling immediately.
Thanks, I stand corrected. A terrible tragedy all around.
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#39
Thrift Store Scott wrote:
[quote=deckeda]
Cody Garrett. Lovely.

Can we aim for credible?

In matters relating to law enforcement from a police officer's perspective, in what way or ways do you find Mr. Garrett to be other than credible?
He's not credible because he's not interested in exploring, let alone changing any of the circumstances that have lead to where our county is today. He's interested in the opposite, which will not quell mistrust of police and it will not put down protests. So why do I care what he has to say? We can continue to complain about protests, and how cops are "limited" in what they can do, or see if there are ways to avoid them.

The system already gives us the officer's perspective. It does so everyday. It has one so for decades. His view is different from all of that, how? Because he's now a Youtuber instead?

These events people wish to characterize as unique occurrences, where decisions are made in-in-the-moment do not imply different outcomes are likely. That's how systems work: they funnel you into a narrow scope of choices.

I totally get and understand why someone like Garrett would feel officers already do all they can. In a very real way, he's right! It's no accident.
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#40
Lizabeth wrote:
Okay, after reading all of the above, my question is this:

What training do the cops need to have to prevent escalations based on various reactions of said suspect?

It sounds like they have to be a profiler in a split second. What training can help them make split second decisions that don’t get people killed?

The officer who killed Mr. Brooks just had de-escalation training in April, according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution. This is pretty standard for cops everywhere now.

I'm sure it helps but no type of training is foolproof, the officer's own good judgment is always going to be the most important factor.
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