Going for Green - but special interest road-blocks

[Carnos Jax]

Man, that sucks. Though unions have done some good, this is an example of them acting bad. Keep up the fight...

[JoeH]

It is possible with proper maintenance that they do not stink. But going by the few installations I have seen, that is not a given. All but one smelled of stale urine. The one that did not was not fully waterless, instead of flushing for every use it flushed and rinsed down the fixture after several uses.

P.S. Racer X's post came in while I was still writing. Like he says, it could be how frequently they are used. Most of the ones I have seen were installed at highway rest stops.

[Racer X]

The bars' were a retrofit, not a new install. A new install may be a different situation.

[JoeH]

Two of the places I have run into them, they were complete new installs. The old rest stop buildings had been torn down completely and a new building erected.

[Paul F.]

I wonder if a cup full of bleach-water solution at the end of the day would be sufficent to keep 'em not smelly...
ONE cup of water per each per day is not a large water burden, given the savings over 20-30-40 flushes a day...


Carnos;
You'd be hard pressed to find anything positve they've done in the last 40 years..
I will grant Unions had great beginnings in the first half of the 20th century. It's been a self-serving downhill slide since around the mid '60's.





Oh yeah.. and
"heh heh.. JoeH said 'erected'... heh heh...".

[SteveO]

LEEDS Leader!

Best of luck and success.

[Racer X]

Peeder!

[OWC Larry]

We've actually been very successful in a lot of the Green technologies we've been incorporating. For the most part it has not been hard to get the needed exceptions where the regulations just haven't yet caught up with the Green stuff. This is waterless one is the latest - but also one that our local city and county can't as easily override for us. Our local state Senator is really pushing the Green and been great in terms of getting things done. She was among those at our ground breaking and, well, been really cool to work with.

That said - it is AMAZING the hypocrisy in general out there with politicians on the green. Lots talk a good talk, but are a lot less to walk the walk themselves - be it their own personal conservation or how they really pursue the green policies.

Kind of funny really... those that don't 'sound' as green - maybe because they have a more realistic and realizable vision for environmental conservation - are often a lot more green in what they practice vs. those that preach extremes and also the loudest.

There are plenty of challenges with the building a green building and going to use the experience to help promote programs and educate others to help encourage more of them... but I'll tell ya, some of the biggest challenges come from bs politics and politicians that cave to special interest QUIETLY (could hardly find ANYTHING out there noting that these things were banned in Illinois) while talking the high line to get those votes too.

[Chupa Chupa]

[quote Paul F.]It's not so much the government, it's the unions....

Don't even get me started...

Yeah, but who is the gov't (especially big MW and NE cities)...pols who are getting big donations from unions. Bought and paid for. Cha-ching.

[BigGuynRusty]

[quote DaviDC.]Damn unions!

In Alabama, a corps HAS to be embalmed, even if it's going to be cremated. Why? because the state morticians lobbied to make this a law years ago when cremation started to become popular.
Was that the Marine Corps, or the Army Air Corps?

BGnR