Hillary 3rd?

[vision63]

I'm supporting Edwards in this one, so I hope he can keep it going.

[Silencio]

[quote vision63]I'm supporting Edwards in this one, so I hope he can keep it going.
Either Edwards or Obama is fine by me, though I've started leaning back towards Edwards of late. I'd hold my nose and vote for Hillary if it came to that -- I agree we don't need another political dynasty.

Bill Richardson would make a good VP candidate. Pretty moderate overall, very strong on diplomacy. He'd go a long ways towards restoring our credibility overseas.

[(vikm)]

[quote cbelt3]Yet again, our defective election system makes a bunch of yahoos in Iowa the most important people in the US.

I'd rather see a primary run just like the main election- all at the same time across the US, none of this inky dinky state pushing one candidate above the other.
I've been saying the same thing about holding them all on the same day. It's idiocy to do it the way they do now.

(as for Iowa being a bunch of Yahoos, I may secretly believe that but wouldn't state it publicly ;-) What I will say is that compared to many states they aren't exactly what one would refer to as culturally diverse and thus don't represent what we as a country are supposed to).

[MacArtist]

[quote incognegro]new Hillary campaign poster:


It's a true smear campaign.

[OWC Jamie]

[quote (vikm)]

(as for Iowa being a bunch of Yahoos, I may secretly believe that but wouldn't state it publicly ;-) What I will say is that compared to many states they aren't exactly what one would refer to as culturally diverse and thus don't represent what we as a country are supposed to).

And what would that be ?
Elitist snobs ?

[ho'ard]

[quote (vikm)] Each of the news shows all raved about Obama's speech afterward and noted that Bill looked "devastated" as he stood by Hillary during her same old "stump speech".
It's gonna be really interesting.
Obama's speech was a buncha nothing, and Bill looked a bit tired but in no way "devastated".

[Jack D.]

[quote edgarbc1]

Hillary lost... get over it..





The Munchkin Land Song (Ding Dong The Witch is Dead!)

(Glinda)
Come out, come out wherever you are
And meet the young lady who fell from a star
She fell from the sky, she fell very far
And Kansas she says is the name of the star

(Munchkins)
Kansas she says is the name of the star

(Glinda)
She brings you good news, or haven't you heard
When she fell out of Kansas a miracle occurred

(Dorothy)
It really was no miracle
What happened was just this:
The wind began to switch the house to pitch
And suddenly the hinges started to unhitch
Just then the witch, to satisfy an itch
Went flying on her broomstick thumbing for a hitch

(Munchkin Man)
And oh what happened then was rich

(Munchkins)
The house began to pitch, the kitchen took a slitch
It landed on the wicked witch in the middle of a ditch
Which was not a healthy situation for the wicked witch

The house began to pitch, the kitchen took a slitch
It landed on the wicked witch in the middle of a ditch
Which was not a healthy situation for the wicked witch
Who began to twitch, and was reduced to just a stitch
Of what was once the wicked witch

(Munchkin 1)
We thank you very sweetly for doing it so neatly

(Munchkin 2)
You've killed her so completely
That we thank you very sweetly

(Glinda)
Let the joyous news be spread
The wicked, old witch at last is dead

(Munchkins)
Ding-dong the witch is dead
Which old witch? The wicked witch
Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead
Wake up you sleepyhead
Rub your eyes, get out of bed
Wake up the wicked witch is dead
She's gone where the goblins go
Below - below - below
Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out
Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low
Let them know the Wicked Witch is dead

(Mayor)
As mayor of the Munchkin City
In the county of the land of Oz
I welcome you most regally

(Judge)
But we've got to verify it legally
To see...

(Mayor)
To see...

(Judge)
If she...

(Mayor)
If she...

(Judge)
Is morally, ethically

(Munchkin 1)
Spiritually, physically

(Munchkin 2)
Positively, absolutely

(Munchkin Men)
Undeniably and reliably dead

(Coroner)
As Coroner , I thoroughly examined her
And she's not only merely dead
She's really most sincerely dead

(Mayor)
Then this is a day of independence for all the munchkins
And their descendants
Yes, let the joyous news be spread
The wicked old witch at last is dead

(Munchkins)
Ding-dong the witch is dead
Which old witch? The wicked witch
Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead
Wake up you sleepyhead
Rub your eyes, get out of bed
Wake up the wicked witch is dead
She's gone where the goblins go
Below - below - below
Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out
Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low
Let them know the Wicked Witch is dead

(Lullaby League)
We represent the Lullaby League
The Lullaby League, the Lullaby League
And in the name of the Lullaby League
We wish to welcome you to Munchkin Land

(Lollipop Guild)
We represent the Lollipop Guild
The Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop Guild
And in the name of the Lollipop Guild
We wish to welcome you to Munchkin Land

(Munchkins)
We welcome you to Munchkin Land
Tra la la la la la la la la la la la

(Munchkin 1)
From now on you'll be history

(Munchkin 2)
You'll be his...

(Munchkin 3)
You'll be his...

(Munchkin 4)
You'll be history

(Munchkin 1)
And we will glorify your name
You will be a bust...

(Munchkin 2)
Be a bust...

(Munchkin 3)
Be a bust...

(All)
In the hall of fame
Tra la la la la la la la la la la
Tra la la la la la la
Tra la la la la la la la la la la
Tra la la la la la la

[kj]

>>And what would that be ?
Elitist snobs ?

No kidding. Iowa's exactly what it should be--part of our diverse country. No reason everywhere has to be a dang junior 'frisco, or something. Unless he meant it isn't a representative sample, which would make more sense. Of course, I don't know if any state would be a representative sample of the U.S.

As far as Hillary, I haven't seen anything that would indicate where she stands, on anything. It's frustrating to try to find any substance in what she says. I can't imagine that people like that. kj.

[vision63]

I worked in Iowa in 1983/84 (about 6 months - Dem Primary season) and found Iowa to be much more diverse than I thought. Especially Des Moines, Cedar Rapids and Waterloo. I loved it there. I lived in L.A. at that time (home town). I still have my friends there after all this time.

[RgrF]

It's NOT about Iowans, it's about the process. Caucusing has as much in common with voting as baby formula has with mothers milk, while they may look alike they are not the same thing.

To caucus in Iowa means pre regeristering and giving up an entire day or evening. It's for the committed. Lacksidasical doesn't cut it there. If you caucus you are a soldier in the army of Huckabee or Mitt or Hillary or Edwards or Obama or anyone else you choose to support.

It's less an election than a poll of committed supporters.

The impressive thing in this election was the number of commited Deocrats doubled while the number of commited Republicans declined by almost the same margin. Bad news for the right.