Study: $45 trillion needed to combat warming

[Lux Interior]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jkS9v...QD914GU7O0

And Al Gore is going to get all of it!

Sorry, just wanted to get that out of the way. But global warming issues aside, wouldn't it be a good idea to reduce the consumption of oil?

[RgrF]

[quote Lux Interior]http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jkS9vagI6QfzOI7UJ3G5YXAzGxiQD914GU7O0

And Al Gore is going to get all of it!

Sorry, just wanted to get that out of the way. But global warming issues aside, wouldn't it be a good idea to reduce the consumption of oil?
I've taken to frying with butter, it's tastier and the Saudis don't get a dime.

[incognegro]

Glenn Beck likes to claim how global warming is a sham.

How come the forecast for the next few days in PA is almost 100, in early June?

[OWC Jamie]

Hot town, summer in the city
Back of my neck getting dirty and gritty
Been down, isn't it a pity
Doesn't seem to be a shadow in the city

All around, people looking half dead
Walking on the sidewalk, hotter than a match head

But at night it's a different world
Go out and find a girl
Come-on come-on and dance all night
Despite the heat it'll be alright

And babe, don't you know it's a pity
That the days can't be like the nights
In the summer, in the city
In the summer, in the city

Cool town, evening in the city
Dressing so fine and looking so pretty
Cool cat, looking for a kitty
Gonna look in every corner of the city
Till I'm wheezing like a bus stop
Running up the stairs, gonna meet you on the rooftop

But at night it's a different world
Go out and find a girl
Come-on come-on and dance all night
Despite the heat it'll be alright

And babe, don't you know it's a pity
That the days can't be like the nights
In the summer, in the city
In the summer, in the city

Hot town, summer in the city
Back of my neck getting dirty and gritty
Been down, isn't it a pity
Doesn't seem to be a shadow in the city

All around, people looking half dead
Walking on the sidewalk, hotter than a match head

But at night it's a different world
Go out and find a girl
Come-on come-on and dance all night
Despite the heat it'll be alright

And babe, don't you know it's a pity
That the days can't be like the nights
In the summer, in the city
In the summer, in the city

[cbelt3]

Fear mongering scam designed to enrich traders. If you can't get in on a hot commodity market, make your own !

This "carbon trading" idea is incredibly disgusting. It's the global equivalent of pimping- traders pass money around (keeping a massive percentage for themselves, of course) in exchange for the C02 sweat of their ho's.

Except in this case there is no goods or service being handled. It's BEYOND smoke and mirrors.

[mattkime]

>>This "carbon trading" idea is incredibly disgusting.

I guess from a Republican point of view, anything that acknowledges global warming is "incredibly disgusting".

Otherwise the idea plays into all the republican ideals of using a free market to solve problems.

[shadow]

[quote incognegro]Glenn Beck likes to claim how global warming is a sham.
The only thing we can say with 100% certainty about the climate is that it is always changing. How global warming is being presented to the general public (as an absolute truth, like "1 + 1 = 2") is a sham.

[quote incognegro]How come the forecast for the next few days in PA is almost 100, in early June?
You mean just like it was in 1899, 1914, 1925, 1933, 1959, 1984, and 1999?

Yep.... must be global warming.

[cbelt3]

makk, and yet this 'solution' to a problem is wildly theoretical.

You might as well sell 'tidal futures' and then use them to hold back the tides. It's an international Ponzi scheme designed to make us 'feel good about doing something' without actually taking the truly hard actions to reduce CO2 emissions and fossil fuel consumption. And the scheme's collapse will come in in the form of civilization's downfall during the lives of our children's children.

Take the $45 trillion and spend it on Fusion research, solar power research, and your problems will be SOLVED for now and the future. Enrich scientists and engineers, not a bunch of carbon day-traders. Enrich people who can actually DO SOMETHING instead of people who neither toil nor spin.

Again, this approach is disgustingly stupid.

[Lux Interior]

[quote cbelt3]
Again, this approach is disgustingly stupid.
What article did you read?

The scenario for deeper cuts would require massive investment in energy technology development and deployment, a wide-ranging campaign to dramatically increase energy efficiency, and a wholesale shift to renewable sources of energy.

In addition, the world would have to construct 32 new nuclear power plants each year, and wind-power turbines would have to be increased by 17,000 units annually.

Seems like they are suggesting reducing the carbon emissions by reducing the need for fossil fueled plants. I even searched on "trade" in the article. Didn't find the word.

I don't like the idea of "so-called "carbon capture and storage" technology allowing coal-powered power plants to catch emissions and inject them underground." Just injecting them underground would be as good as just dumping nuclear waste in an empty field.

[cbelt3]

I'm griping about the whole 'carbon credit' trade approach.